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Oct 20, 2023Liked by Ioan Grillo

I hope you enjoyed your journey to the region. I consider myself spiritual, but I also know that some journeys are best left untraveled. My most recent “lesson” on this is taking too many legal gummies (I lost track of time, and not thinking they weren’t working, too too much) and having a bad experience.

I think the reminder that the CIA has a record that seems more misses then hits, & consistent questionable ethics. I always like to see Mexican towns flourish so that was a positive.

Thanks always for bringing us on your journeys Ioan.

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An article TODAY on the links between the CIA, Monarch mind control, organized crime, and the 2024 Mexican election: https://thecommonsenseshow.com/agenda-21-conspiracy-economics/globalist-candidate-mexicos-presidency-could-cement-control-continent

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CHAOS: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties is a book that goes into it. The CIA preferred LSD because they can use it to hurt and control people. Mushroom wouldn't let them do that so they gave up. Mushrooms fought back.

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Oct 21, 2023Liked by Ioan Grillo

The CIA was always obsessed with creating the perfect Manchurian candidate and it's experimentation with drugs was always about control and whether it could produce human controlled weapons. But MK Ultra also created other programs involving drugs, bioweapons and drug research that the CIA still funds today with the Department of Defense especially through colleges.

Besides testing prisoners including Whitey Bulger with LSD, many other prisoners were tested with drugs that would pacify or alter their violent tendencies hopefully permanently. A large amount of shock therapy was tested on prisoners. The college UCLA in Los Angeles since the 1960's has had numerous research labs trying to see if violence could be eliminated in the brain either with Skinnerian behavioral modification, drugs or medical procedures including forms of lobotomies. Drug protocols were extensive in CIA interrogations in Vietnam violating military procedures. My father, working in mental health and social welfare rehabilitation was always advised by unknown individuals who did not work for the city or county on what would be the best and cheapest form of pacification of the mental patients.

Along with DARPA , the CIA has always been involved with bioweapon research even after the so-called ban of bioweapons in 1972 evaded by building labs around the world including China. MK Ultra expanded the CIA's interest in drugs to a more sophisticated weaponization of drugs and bacterial and virus research.

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Having interviewed Steven Kinzer upon the release of Poisoner in Chief, I take several of his claims with several grains of salt. My information/research doesn’t synch with several of his claims. Over the last 50 years, & especially since Sidneys death in 1999, the Gottlieb narrative has become sensationalized, heavily weighted by baseless, unverifiable assumption(s) and 2nd hand opinion from clueless people. Much of that opinion has been crafted by a narrative story line. An Agenda specific tale telling to make an interesting story more shocking, a pulp fiction...Kinzer’s book is highly assumptive & very specific to the atypical ‘CIA and everyone involved with them are evil’ narrative. That nothing Sidney was involved with was any good. Now I grok that there is evidence in support of negatively polarized claims in specific instances around the CIA & the contractors in their employ during the operational years of MKULTRA. To my knowledge no one has interviewed any of Sidneys closest friends in Virginia, those he lived with who started Scan Design, or spoken to those he worked with at the Leper Colony he & Margaret worked & lived in for two years. No one has interviewed one of his 4 children, other than maybe Eric Olson who I wrote recently to confirm. Tom O’Neill, author of the book CHAOS about Charles Manson spoke with Kinzer after I interviewed him and Tom stated he felt Steven was possibly a “CIA Limited Hangout author”, likely know what that alludes to.. then again same has been made about Tom.

Anyway, Sidney Gottlieb predates Kesey’s use of Electric Cool. The idea of dosing a vat of fruit flavored party drink for several people likely bled over from the Greeks use of Kykeon in Eleusis. Sidney and Ken were Acolytes of Kykeon. Sidney was very strategic, learned in his usage of LSD for tactical operations. He experimented using different “party drinks” or social beverages spiking them with different drugs for different purposes to both the willing & unwilling consumers. Kesey did THE EXACT SAME PRACTICE no more than five years later.....

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You make me want to take drugs, become Indian Jones, and hunt the CIA. I'll pay tribute by crossposting on Monday.

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The spirit world is not for the living.

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Trudeau & MK Ultra

By Cathy O'Brien

https://dianabarahona.substack.com/p/trudeau-and-mk-ultra

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Yeah, I read some of that many moons ago when I was a teenager and people were passing it around. I should go back to it. I am not sure how much is literature rather than real anthropology but it is interesting. Best there friend.

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my introduction into all this, started with Carlos Castaneda (books... His Wiki page is interesting

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